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Tarisio Auction's top American maker sales

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If we exclude the "Italo-American" designated violins, and throw out those modern day instruments by living American makers (Sam Z) :-) , Knute Reindahl ties with Karl Berger for second place at $5,400, well behind two August Gemunders at $9,000 & $10,800.

Reindahl instruments regularly do well at auction, usually ending up in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd position in a similar field of entries, with only instruments by August Gemunder and Carl Becker consistantly commanding higher prices.

The Reindahl violin in this Tarisio auction spent quite a few years making music in the Rhode Island Philharmonic Orchestra. It was commissioned by Martin Aberg of Providence Rhode Island in 1917 for his son, Victor.

Skinner April Violin Auction

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Hello;  would anyone be able to comment on the high number of unsold instruments at this auction. Does Skinner now have a different format with high reserves or was there just a lack of interest and low turn out? Also, has the absence of David Bosney having an effect? Any other comments would also be very welcome. Thanks, OT

violin ID

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Hi,

 

Happy Easter hols for those that have them.

 

I'd appreciate any opinion on this violin - it's been through the wars. 

 

No corner blocks but all lined. Three position pins front and back, top & bottom  (apart from button area where a big patch has been put in). High arching. Grafted scroll where fluting stops approx 7 o clock. One piece back (well originally). Two piece bottom rib and the saddle has been cut into the rib at some point. The label is indistinct.

 

Reading Jacob's posts on construction methods I think the ribs may have been built straight onto the back(?) 

 

Many thanks

 

Thanks 

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Skinner to Ebay in less than a week, why?

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Janos Bodor 1977 Viola sold at Skinner for $1168 on April 13, 2014

 

Few days later, selling on E-bay with no reserve

 

My question is why the quick turnaround:

1. Buyer bought at Skinner thinking he/she could flip it immediately for a profit;

2. Buyer didn't get what he/she expected so immediately sold.

 

What's going on here?

This is an interesting auction for collectors...

A new low in violin dealing?

Christie's Sale of 1731 Kreutzer Strad

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Anyone else posted on this?

As a part of the Huguette Clark collection a 1731 Strad (below left) is up for sale.

Reading the background to the collection the source of the family fortune and subsequent collection is not without controversy.

 

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/31/22513322-tour-recluse-huguette-clarks-art-collection-viewing-days-set-at-christies-new-york?chromedomain=usnews

 

This is tricky because it seems there are at least two Strads with the same sobriquet "Kreutzer", Vengerov owning and playing one from 1727(below right) ?

 

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Violin making mold.


Ebay 'attributed to' Postiglione?

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Wondering what the experts think of this one.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151287267572

 

I asked the seller for more info, here's what I got:

 

"I don't have a certificate by a shop, and there's no

label. I showed the violin to two different luthiers/violin experts, one
said that it's definitely of Italian origin and very reminiscent to the
work of Vincenzo Postiglione and placed it around 1870-1880, the other
luthier thought that it's most likely an1870's Postiglione violin, based on
two violins that he had worked on in the past by the maker."

Violin ID

Johann Adam Schönfelder

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Just incase anybody has a hole burning in their pocket, I should perhaps point out that this:
http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=331141504486

isn’t a Johann Adam Schönfelder Anno 1743, but an instrument from about 100 years later with a facimile (fake) label. The very early Neukirchener are very few and far between, and much nicer, and would, as I have pointed out time and time again, have the label on the inside of the treble middle rib,and not in the “normal” place.

Attributed to stainer?

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I don't know what to make of this viola. Jacob, Blankface or anyone else have any thoughts?

 

The link I posted doesn't work; I'm refering to lot 49 of the just finished Tarisio sale.

 

While you're at it, take a look at lot 54. 

 

Both went quite a bit above estimate, and both don't look like anything I recognize.

Any ideas on this one?

Transitional Dutzendwaren: 1.) Who made this violin? 2.) A Pfretzschner 5-string cello?

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Didn't really want to make this into an eBay thread, but since I can't yet post my own pictures, I've posted links to the auction listings instead.

 

I received both of these today. The first appears to be a typical Saxon shop violin ca. 1800 with its original fittings and some sort of hide glue-based over-varnish. Unfortunately, I received the violin with cracks on either side of the bassbar:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/violin-wood-old-used-Needs-repair-/171317272980

 

Two questions about this instrument: 1.) Any reasonable guess as to the maker? 2.) How should I go about fixing the bassbar cracks as I'd like to retain what I assume will be an integral bar?

 

Now, for the second instrument, which I bought under the assumption that it was a largely unaltered ca. 1800 cello, made or at least sold by the Pfretzschner shop as the label states. Again, typical early shop work:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-C-G-PFRETZSCHNERS-No-389-4-4-Cello-As-Found-Labeled-/271461496869

 

Now, for some long-winded notes in the absence of good pictures...

 

I got to examining the instrument this evening and noted the longish scroll, as well as what I presumed were the old G and D peg holes bushed and redrilled to eliminate what must have been a peculiarly long distance to the C and A pegs. What I believed was the original D peg-hole remains plugged, and the present hole now overlaps the presumably original G peg-hole. The present G peg fits into a hole that I thought had been drilled more recently. I didn't give much thought to it at first.

 

But I was looking at the cello again and thought, "this cello looks awfully small and shallow." So I pulled out the tape measure: string length, 680 mm; back length 695 mm.

 

And then I thought that perhaps the "new" G peg-hole had been there all along and that the cello was built as a 5-string instrument.

 

So my question is, could this have started life as a 5 string violoncello piccolo? Even as late as around 1800?

 

 

 

 

Paul Doerfel Viola

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Don't know much about the maker (Paul Doerfel).  The viola does look very attractive and quite excellently made.


Three Amedee Dieudonne sold on Tarisio for different price. WhY?

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I just found out three Amedee Dieudonne violins sold on the recent Tarisio. And, one of them sold at a higher price (at 3500, 3750 and 7000 - 7000 is a record for Dieudonne's from the quick look on brompton), even though the condition look very good(to the untrained me). Is there something I did not see that is contributing to the price difference (100% more)? Would someone like to commend on the price difference?

they are lot 164 165 and 181

P.S: I found their scroll are quite pretty. Do you find it too?

Obscure American Makers

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I have owned and sold quite a few violins by obscure American makers. Some have been remarkable for the quality of their tone. The makers whose violins have been surprisingly good sounding are OM Robinson c.1900, Harvey Ball c.1900, AH Ritter c.1970, John Tornquist c.1960, C Denneny 1914, GW Quick, Harold Pinney c.1926,George Servis c. 1920. Most of these makers have very little information, but I only have a couple of books. Of these, perhaps the OM Robinson was the best sounding. A really fine, powerful, dark tone.

Does anybody know anything about these makers? I know of another Pinney here in NH but the others were only children. I have detailed photos of most of these.

Jesse

Interesting Violin

Sympertus Niggel

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Since a couple of people have contacted me privately already today regarding Simpert Niggl, I would like to post a few observations, just to be a little more economic with my time.

There seem to have been at least two makers of this name in Füssen in the first half of the 18th C., even on the same street. Since the name, symptomatic of the erratic spelling back then, can variously appear as Niggl, Nigg, Nickel, Nigkl, Niggell etc. it all gets rather confusing. In much of the (outdated) literature, these two Niggl get erroneously lumped together as father and son. The one Niggl, born 1710, died 1785, son in law of Johann Ott had no children, his neighbour had 4 sons, Johann Michael, Thomas, Sebastian and Johann Georg (who we meet later in Vienna), so they are certainly not father and son, what relation to each other they might or might not have been is unknown.

So that you can get a rough idea of what one looks like, I will attempt to post pictures of a violin of mine, from Niggl, son in law of Ott, where I unfortunately can't state an exact date, since the last two numbers on the label have entirely faded away. A rather nice Cello from 1743 can be seen in the Landesmuseum Tirol in Innsbruck.

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The reason for the sudden interest in Niggl, is this Ebay listing:
http://www.ebay.at/itm/Very-Old-and-Interesting-Antique-18th-Century-Mittenwald-Violin-Klotz-School-/331202843716?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d1d3a5444

of a “Mittenwald violin made by Sympert Niggel as labelled or by a co-worker or follower”. Since to my best knowledge, there were Sympertus Niggl in Füssen, but not in Mittenwald, this is plainly nonsense, if not an oxymoron. The violin is most likely from Mittenwald, towards the end of the 18th. C, a couple of generations too late to match the ebay description and will be impossibly difficult to ascribe to a particular individual, since it would seem that much of the village built violins at the time.

NB: the violin has a SOUNDPOST CRACK IN THE BACK, and, from the end pin view, has cracks beneath the chin rest, which will require attention (i.e. belly removal)

Violin ID Dworak label

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